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Subject: Re: Goodbye from burmanet-l and go forward
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please all of you join freeburma@xxxxxxxxxxx which is contributed by FREEBURMA
2000 groups of Burmese activists.
See you there.
Have a very very happy new year 2000.
sincerely
panyoma/syd
RangoonPost@xxxxxxx wrote:
> I was automatically unsubscribed by the BN editor and then subscribed to
> BurmaNet news only list BurmaNews and then unsubscribed. This is
> agrivating. I can still apparently get to BurmaNet but not BurmaNews.
> Since Burma Net has it apparent connections to SOROS, I am now suspiscious
> about it and this new IGC.TOPICA .
>
> Though at their web site: http://www.topica.com it has an option to
> create your own list, though I am not sure it is free. BurmaNet 2 seems to
> be still active. Another option is creating another egroup.com list which
> there seems to be 3 or more and also the list-site where myanmar made their
> listbot link.
>
> In a message dated 12/29/99 1:06:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
> celsus@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>
> << > From: Aung Soe <aungsoe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: Goodbye from burmanet-l
> > Date: December 29, 1999 9:19 AM
> >
> > Is it a joke or real thing? Answer.
> >
> ------------------------------
>
> Yes, you could call it a joke and it would appear that the final laugh in
> this comedy of errors lies with the BurmaNet editor and the mysterious
> 'powers that be' in Washington and New York that have chosen to shut off
> the taps of access to this freedom exchange.
>
> Remarkable that yours is the first faint voice of protest to be heard.
> Even more remarkable that this new form of censorship comes in a week when
> the 'powers that be in Rangoon' have squashed the tiny ray of cyber
> connectedness that was opening up in Burma and hauled off one of their own
> for questioning on suspicion of having passed along messages that were
> shared on the very Net that now itself enters the sacred circle of the
> CENSORSHIP of SILENCE. Ah, well, we who raise our voices in these circles
> must be thankful for small mercies, I suppose. At least, no prison term
> stares us in the face for our gentle words of protest.
>
> And what 'mess of pottage' will we, who have given away our 'birthright' of
> free expression, receive in return. Take heart, good friend, a 'free'
> subscription to the BurmaNet News, perhaps even with pictures and maps and
> all other kinds of goodies are offered to make up for the fact that the
> editor and the 'mysterious powers that be' are rid, once and for all, of
> these troublesome, querulous, often uncouth, often uninformed, but
> nevertheless passionately committed voices of protest and of hope that have
> made the burmanet-l a lively forum of ideas.
>
> Admittedly the BurmaNet News has taken a turn for the better in this past
> month -- beginning to fulfil its important mission of giving priority to
> news from 'inside' Burma -- dare we hope it will continue? I could imagine
> the BurmaNet News with a string of underground correspondents in every city
> in the country. Impossible you say? What about the correspondents
> throughout the Shan states whose news is regularly reported in the Shan
> Herald? There are good sources, DVB has some, ABFSU and others are doing
> a great job. Will they multiply? We and the people of Burma who are
> hungry for news better hope so.
>
> But does this good news justify the bad, bad news that the nameless Editor
> of the BurmaNet News should cut him/herself off from communication with
> mere mortals like ourselves who may have our own two cents worth of news or
> comment to share with others?
>
> Alas, this noble experiment, this BurmaNet freedom exchange, ends not with
> a bang, not even with a whimper, but with the sweet voice of Natasha at
> Topica's customer support -- You have been removed -- Find another list.
> Sic transit gloria.
>
> celsus
> >>
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<FONT SIZE=+1>please all of you join freeburma@xxxxxxxxxxx which is contributed
by FREEBURMA 2000 groups of Burmese activists.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=+1>See you there.</FONT>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=+1>Have a very very happy new year 2000.</FONT>
<P><FONT SIZE=+1>sincerely</FONT>
<BR>
<P><FONT SIZE=+1>panyoma/syd</FONT>
<BR>
<P>RangoonPost@xxxxxxx wrote:
<BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE> I was automatically unsubscribed by the BN
editor and then subscribed to
<BR>BurmaNet news only list BurmaNews and then unsubscribed.
This is
<BR>agrivating. I can still apparently get to BurmaNet but not BurmaNews.
<BR>Since Burma Net has it apparent connections to SOROS, I am now suspiscious
<BR>about it and this new IGC.TOPICA .
<P> Though at their web site: <A HREF="http://www.topica.com";>http://www.topica.com</A>
it has an option to
<BR>create your own list, though I am not sure it is free. BurmaNet
2 seems to
<BR>be still active. Another option is creating another egroup.com
list which
<BR>there seems to be 3 or more and also the list-site where myanmar made
their
<BR>listbot link.
<P>In a message dated 12/29/99 1:06:29 AM Eastern Standard Time,
<BR>celsus@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:
<P><< > From: Aung Soe <aungsoe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
<BR> > To: support@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
<BR> > Subject: Re: Goodbye from burmanet-l
<BR> > Date: December 29, 1999 9:19 AM
<BR> >
<BR> > Is it a joke or real thing? Answer.
<BR> >
<BR> ------------------------------
<P> Yes, you could call it a joke and it would appear that the final
laugh in
<BR> this comedy of errors lies with the BurmaNet editor and the mysterious
<BR> 'powers that be' in Washington and New York that have chosen
to shut off
<BR> the taps of access to this freedom exchange.
<P> Remarkable that yours is the first faint voice of protest to be
heard.
<BR> Even more remarkable that this new form of censorship comes in
a week when
<BR> the 'powers that be in Rangoon' have squashed the tiny ray of
cyber
<BR> connectedness that was opening up in Burma and hauled off one
of their own
<BR> for questioning on suspicion of having passed along messages
that were
<BR> shared on the very Net that now itself enters the sacred circle
of the
<BR> CENSORSHIP of SILENCE. Ah, well, we who raise our voices
in these circles
<BR> must be thankful for small mercies, I suppose. At least,
no prison term
<BR> stares us in the face for our gentle words of protest.
<P> And what 'mess of pottage' will we, who have given away our 'birthright'
of
<BR> free expression, receive in return. Take heart, good friend,
a 'free'
<BR> subscription to the BurmaNet News, perhaps even with pictures
and maps and
<BR> all other kinds of goodies are offered to make up for the fact
that the
<BR> editor and the 'mysterious powers that be' are rid, once and
for all, of
<BR> these troublesome, querulous, often uncouth, often uninformed,
but
<BR> nevertheless passionately committed voices of protest and of
hope that have
<BR> made the burmanet-l a lively forum of ideas.
<P> Admittedly the BurmaNet News has taken a turn for the better in
this past
<BR> month -- beginning to fulfil its important mission of giving
priority to
<BR> news from 'inside' Burma -- dare we hope it will continue?
I could imagine
<BR> the BurmaNet News with a string of underground correspondents
in every city
<BR> in the country. Impossible you say? What about the
correspondents
<BR> throughout the Shan states whose news is regularly reported in
the Shan
<BR> Herald? There are good sources, DVB has some, ABFSU
and others are doing
<BR> a great job. Will they multiply? We and the people
of Burma who are
<BR> hungry for news better hope so.
<P> But does this good news justify the bad, bad news that the nameless
Editor
<BR> of the BurmaNet News should cut him/herself off from communication
with
<BR> mere mortals like ourselves who may have our own two cents worth
of news or
<BR> comment to share with others?
<P> Alas, this noble experiment, this BurmaNet freedom exchange, ends
not with
<BR> a bang, not even with a whimper, but with the sweet voice of
Natasha at
<BR> Topica's customer support -- You have been removed -- Find
another list.
<BR> Sic transit gloria.
<P> celsus
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