Sue Huang or whoever!

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Sue Huang
You are becoming quite abusive.Try to practise freedom of expression with a
little bit of respect.
Haven't you got bored of acting like a smart ass at all time.


panyoma/syd


Sue Huang wrote:

> dear burmanet,
>
> ooooooooooooooooofffff. boy this is something. twinkle and roger put brains
> together, come up with zero.
>
> so funny. no one even stop to listen to what rachel have to say. only
> condemn, condemn, condemn -- right away!
>
> ok ask question:
>
> all of burmanet has gotten release of how many polticial prisoner?
>
> answer: none.
>
> goldman parent got release of how many?
>
> answer: one
>
> so maybe goldmans know more about how to get thing done in burma than you
> do? maybe time to listen and learn? hello dum dum are you listening what is
> right in front of you?
>
> i think sometimes activist enjoy being loser. enjoy being victim. enjoy
> being stuck in failure. it is politically correct to be loser, hooray! we
> are victims, hooray for us!
>
> love from, susu who is so irritated. where are burma activist with brain?
>
> >From: policy.office@xxxxxxxxx (Roger Bunn)
> >To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >CC: dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Burma Out!  Long boring posting Goldwyn claims FBC
> >Date: Tue, 16 Nov 1999 02:47:45 +0000
> >
> > >Until she shows herself willing to denounce the
> >generals openly, and to>cut these engagement policy
> >approach that she and her family has adopted >to
> >obtain her release under most suspicious conditions,
> >we encourage>others to do the same, and to do as
> >you please.  >Dawn Star
> >
> >
> >(How forgiving DS.)
> >
> >Ladies and gentlemen,
> >
> >Having been in this "game" for some considerable while.
> >I have been privilige to work with many well known activists,
> >some of whom were from S Africa.
> >
> >And my experiebce with that nation showed that once
> >an activist had "over stepped the line" there was never
> >any way back. Rachel Goldwyn commited poitical suicide
> >the moment she opened her mouth at Heathrow Airport,
> >and handed the junta a propaganda coup. Until that time
> >we all in BO, as her friends and supporters, even though
> >hampered by her parents wishes for her freedom at any
> >price, and the UK media who would eventually have to report
> >her words, continued deep faith in Rachel's integrity. But,
> >friendship or not, this deeply misguided young woman has
> >over stepped the line.  And is no longer considered persona
> >gratis by any of the formal Free Burma groups in  the UK.
> >
> >She would be a fool to stay around. We are not here,
> >on the list, working for freedom, to be betrayed.
> >
> >Finally :
> >If Mss Goldwyn had been a black South African with a
> >home in Soweto, and had handed white minority rule a
> >propaganda coup such as she did for the junta, Mss
> >Goldwyn would have probably not survived the experience .
> >
> >This is London. Here is an except from our BO Loop out
> >
> >
> >                          ------------------------
> >
> >                                    The UK
> >
> >The junta propaganda machine Emailed us. Said it was
> >going to send us back a "puppet"... And, reflecting upon
> >all the "rubber tyre necklaces" deaths of the past, it didn't
> >take long to work that one out.
> >
> >Obviously, the news of last  week was of the "release of
> >one of our number". One Rachel Goldwyn, 28 yrs old, from
> >stylish Barnes, west London. Who, when we surfaced BO
> >8 months ago with the completed plan for the outing of the
> >Burmese miitary regime, via the IOC, from the Sydney 2000
> >Olympiad. Contacted us and requested that she should make
> >banners for BO demonstrations and provided us with some
> >information on drug abuse in Australia.
> >
> >In a bravado of commitment to human rights and in the ousting
> >the ethnically unrepresentative team from Rangoon, she was
> >prominent on the BO picket lines outside Australia House
> >in the Strand.  And independently, although unsupported by
> >either the free campaigning groups nor ourselves, confessed
> >that she was going to ignore all advice and head for Burma to
> >get arrested and released within two months.
> >
> >"My family has contacts at the Burmese embassy"  Her timing
> >  was spot on.
> >
> >The story she now maintains in the European media is
> >different from that... "Our Rach", "changed" from innocent but
> >"misguided" human rights worker to a "Bride of Juntastein",
> >returned to home with her adoring parents. And uncaring
> >of the damage caused to exiles, has stated that the "sentence
> >shocked her" (7 yrs) and that she thought that "she would be
> >deported within a week".
> >
> >After her return and "trade in" of her comrades and all she had
> >previously stood for, Goldwyn brazenly announced that her next
> >career woud be as "a  researcher into anti-drug measures
> >being taken on by the  junta's miltitary in the north of the
> >country".  (As if anyone would ever believe anything she said
> >again huh?) And while helping  "the poor from the inside" ,
> >would also complete her masters degree at SOAS, in London.
> >
> >Having met with the family before they went out to get her back,
> >I had been  concerned that, although in regard to the fight for
> >human rights, Dr Charmian Goldwyn seemed strong, it had
> >soon became obvious that she was dominated by a husband
> >of a far lesser strength.
> >
> >And as one listens to her father talk of a promising career
> >with an Unlimited Phone Account. One wonders which part
> >of  the Golden Triangle will pay for her anti-drug studies.
> >
> >                             -----------------------
> >
> >                                      Annex :
> >
> >
> >One thinks that "brazen" is the correct word for these
> >circumstances huh? The Goldwyn goof was not getting released,
> >but opening ones mouth without consultation with those who
> >knew best and supported the most. Thereby sicking up undiluted
> >junta propaganda .. Such are the "render refinements" of
> >misguided family loyalty. But then Burma would know more
> >about "misguided family loyalties" than most I guess.
> >
> >Here, we don't tolerate as much as in the past.
> >
> >btw : One hopes that her proposed return, does not further
> >disturb the main reasons why we are all, or the ones who are
> >not junta mouthpieces, here.  Therefore, can I suggest the we
> >end this sickly topic as soon a possible. We can handle the UK
> >media on this subject. And Goldwyn will not be accepted as
> >genuine here in the UK. If no one on this list allows her the
> >contacts and freedoms she wishes for her future, then there
> >is little she can do except continue to destroy that which she
> >pledged faith in, but at arms length.
> >
> >Many commiserations to Ko Aung for any future isolation., for
> >it may be he who becomes one of the main victims in this case.
> >But that's love fer yuh.  gotta take the rough with the smooth.
> >(And that's his solo choice.)
> >
> >But the time for more Goldwyn family  "smooth as silk" material
> >is over..
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Rr
> >
> >Follow the plea by Daw Aung San Suu Kyi, and the appreciations
> >of HH the Dalai Lama, the Shan Democratic Union,  film maker John
> >Pilger, the Free Burma Coalition,  author Alan Clements, Dennis
> >Skinner MP, Tony Benn MP, Ann Clwyd MP, Congress-woman
> >Maxine Waters,  Socialist Workers' Party,  Dr and Welsh rugby
> >star JPR Williams, Hendrix  bassist Noel Redding,  S African jazz
> >pianist Abdullah Ibrahim,  All Burma Students Democratic
> >Organisation,  All Burma Students Democratic Front, Tasmanian
> >Trades & Labour Council,  SACP (South African Communist Party),
> >COSATU,  Tim Gopsill, editor.  The.Journalist@xxxxxxxxxx, and
> >numerous others.
> >
> >Supporting a Genuine war upon drugs and human rights abuse.
> >Sydney 2000 : Burma Out!
> >http://www.mihra.org/2k/burma.htm
> >
> >Music Industry Human Rights Association
> >http://www.mihra.org / policy.office@xxxxxxxxx
> >
> >Rachel and James http//:www.mihra.org/2k/rachel.htm
> >Union Action http://www.mihra.org/2k/Union.htm
> >
> >Founded during UN50. Mihra's roots are in music and anti-racism and
> >was first in line in calling for a sports boycott of Burma for the Sydney
> >2000 Olympic Games. Mihra also advances protection of creators rights
> >in an anti-cultural market, currently 93.8% monopolised by the recording
> >/ publishing Grand Cartel.
> >
> >Major solo work "Piece of Mind". With orchestra, Holland 69. same
> >time as Beatles "Abbey Road".   http://onlinetv.com/rogerbunn.html
> >                           ========================
> >
>
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