Rebels puffing (r)

[dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

susu, you sound like you are a little out of breath, save us, save it,
and take a breather, ok? unless you have something constructive to
offer, instead of all this silly shadow boxing.

Sue Huang wrote:
> 
> oh HAG you are all hot air. puff puff puff.
> 
> stop puffing and look at facts about embassy.
> 
> they demand release of political prisoners -- none released
> 
> they demand nld-spdc dialog -- no dialog
> 
> they demand parliament to be recognized - no parliament
> 
> they demand helicopter -- ok, get helicopter, fly away and never mind about
> democracy demands!!!!!
> 
> you call that heros? guts? puff puff puff puff puff
> 
> susu
> 
> >From: "Htun A. Gyaw" <hag2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >To: "Sue Huang" <susuhuang@xxxxxxxxxxx>, bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx,
> >burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: Rebels win, Workers lose
> >Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 09:07:06 -0400
> >
> >
> >Do you think the seizure of Embassy only produce ten minutes media
> >attention? Do you think the illegal Burmese workers in BKK are far more
> >important than the people inside Burma? Do you have an ability to made this
> >ten minutes deal? if not, do not insult the people who have guts.
> >
> >Htun Aung Gyaw
> >
> >
> >
> >At 02:00 AM 10/07/1999 +0000, Sue Huang wrote:
> > >hello??? EVERYBODY lose from this stupid embassy attack, indiana.
> >innocent
> > >workers hurt, as you say. crackdown on ABSDF and other groups in BKK has
> > >been announced by thai government. vigorous students made nld look like
> > >terror-sponsoring group. any hope for early release of rachel goldwyn
> > >probably gone. bangkok embassy security now upgraded, meaning any SERIOUS
> > >long-term occupation, seizure of files etc may no longer be possible.
> >border
> > >closed making prices go up in rangoon. whole movement now looks
> > >disorganized, no leadership. credibility has been lost.
> > >
> > >name one positive accomplishment. answer: ten minutes of media attention.
> > >big deal.
> > >
> > >so, hooray for vigorous students. have guns instead of brains.
> > >
> > >susu
> > >
> > >>From: Indiana <bina@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >>To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx
> > >>Subject: Rebels win, Workers lose
> > >>Date: Thu, 07 Oct 1999 07:24:08 +0700
> > >>
> > >>Just a note of reality, here amid all the euphoria about getting the
> > >>world's attention on Burma by a show of physical force in our host's
> > >>capital city.
> > >>
> > >>By some estimates, there are one million undocumented Burmese workers in
> > >>Thailand, about half of whom work in Bangkok.  For those of you who dont
> > >>know, these undocumented workers are habitually ripped off by their
> >company
> > >>owners, abused by their foremen, and harassed by the Thai police.
> >Without
> > >>state papers, they have no legal rights at all.  Their children are
> >often
> > >>born on the construction work sites, and later they play in the dirt and
> > >>the junk piles while their parents mix cement, bend re-bar, and carry
> > >>bricks, for half the wages of a Thai laborer.  The only reason these
> >people
> > >>are in Bangkok, far from their towns and villages in Burma, is simply
> > >>because it is even worse for them at home.
> > >>
> > >>I had spent about six months working with a group of Burmese students to
> > >>set up a primary school for these kids at a construction site in
> >Bangkok.
> > >>We researched the situation, wrote a project proposal and prepared a
> >budget
> > >>which included books, paper, and lunch for the kids.  We sent it out to
> > >>friends and organizations who we thought might be interested in funding
> >the
> > >>school.  We finally heard that it was going to be approved last week,
> >just
> > >>before the embassy story hit the headlines.
> > >>
> > >>The students who were going to run this school all live at the Maneeloy
> > >>"safe camp".  But now it looks like easy movement to and from the camp
> >is
> > >>over (see story that follows).  If they cannot leave the camp for
> >Bangkok,
> > >>there will be no school for the workers' children.  And from the sounds
> >the
> > >>Thai government is making, life is going to get even harder for the
> >workers
> > >>themselves.
> > >>
> > >>I know that everyone wants to go back to Burma.  I know that the
> >continued
> > >>presence of the junta there is a disgrace to human society.  I know how
> > >>frustrated everyone is with the lack of movement in the international
> > >>community.  I was also glad to see something "real" happen, although I
> >know
> > >>that violence is never elegant, nor can it be a solid foundation on
> >which
> > >>to build anything long-lasting.
> > >>
> > >>But with no collective planning, no coordinated follow-up, no long-range
> > >>strategy to use this "aberration" to press our demands home to the
> > >>international community, it is the weakest people, as usual, who will
> >bear
> > >>the brunt of the hostile fall-out that violence always breeds.  I know
> >in a
> > >>very personal way what a loss of this school means to the children,
> >their
> > >>parents, and to the entire illegal worker population of Bangkok.
> > >>
> > >>If the embassy attack gets them all back home to a peaceful Burma
> >tomorrow,
> > >>I will be cheering along with the rest.  But if it only makes conditions
> > >>worse for them here in Bangkok, then it is they who will be paying the
> > >>long-term cost for the Vigorous Burmese Student Warriors moment of
> >glory.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> >SHAN HERALD AGENCY FOR NEWS
> > >> >October 6, 1999
> > >> >
> > >> >Thailand wants Myanmar students out of country after hostage crisis
> > >> >
> > >> >     BANGKOK, Oct 6 (AFP) - Thailand said Wednesday it planned to
> >round
> > >>up
> > >> >exiled Myanmar students and send them to a third country, after five
> > >> >student gunmen took almost 40 people hostage at Yangon's embassy here.
> > >>In
> > >> >the wake of the 25-hour hostage crisis, which ended with the gunmen
> > >>fleeing
> > >> >Bangkok by helicopter Saturday, Thai authorities met to discuss ways
> >to
> > >> >prevent more international terrorism on Thai soil. The National
> >Security
> > >> >Council (NSC) said it would round up exiled students inside Thailand,
> > >>check
> > >> >their status, and prosecute those found to have entered the country
> > >> >illegally. All students would then be transferred to the Maneeloy
> >holding
> > >> >centre near the Thai-Myanmar Border, and the United Nations High
> > >> >Commissioner for Refugees (UNHCR) would be asked to quickly transfer
> >them
> > >> >to a third country.
> > >> >
> > >> >     "We will consult with the UNHCR to send an estimated 2,800
> >Myanmar
> > >> >students to another country," Khachadpai Burusapatana, NSC
> > >> >secretary-general told reporters after the meeting top security
> >agencies.
> > >> >
> > >> >     The UNHCR said it had not been informed of the move yet but would
> > >> >continue to apply long-standing policies on resettlement.
> > >> >     "In accordance with established practice we will continue to
> >promote
> > >> >resettlement of those refugees who qualify for third country
> > >>resettlement,"
> > >> >a UNHCR spokesman said.
> > >> >
> > >> >     Interior ministry spokesman Veerachai Naewboonian said students
> >who
> > >> >were not accepted by a third country would be repatriated to
> > >> >Myanmar.  Veerachai said Thailand had already moved to ensure students
> > >>were
> > >> >confined to the Maneeloy holding centre in Ratchburi province.
> > >> >
> > >> >     "Authorities will step up rules and regulations at the Maneeloy
> > >>holding
> > >> >centre," Veerachai said.
> > >> >     Despite the crackdown on exiled students, Bangkok denied claims
> >by
> > >> >Yangon that refugee camps inside Thailand were being used as terrorist
> > >> >bases.
> > >> >     "On this issue Thailand has a clear cut policy that we will not
> > >>allow
> > >> >any groups of terrorists to operate against neigbouring countries from
> > >> >inside our country," Khachadpai said.
> > >> >
> > >> >     He said Thailand's policy of sheltering 100,000 refugees along
> >the
> > >> >Thai-Myanmar border would remain unchanged, but all illegal Myanmar
> > >>workers
> > >> >would be repatriated.
> > >> >
> > >> >     "We have extended permission for 80,000 to 90,000 Myanmar
> >workers,
> > >>but
> > >> >those who are not granted an extension will be prosecuted for
> >violating
> > >> >immigration laws," he said. In addition, Prime Minister Chuan Leekpai
> >has
> > >> >instructed police to tighten security at 65 embassies and 10
> >consulates
> > >>in
> > >> >Bangkok. Thai Special Branch Police deputy commissioner Major General
> > >> >Yothin Matthayanun said his agency would focus on improving security
> >for
> > >> >diplomatic missions of neighbouring countries and nations embroiled in
> > >> >political disputes, such as Indonesia.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
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