[burmanet2-l] Re: The Times - Bribe (r)

[dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Subject: Re: [burmanet2-l] Re: The Times - Bribery is key to life in Burma's death jail

Stuart, i will reply to you privately, but this message you posted
publicly so here and here alone let me say that this kind of defeatism
is ueseless and self-defeating and undermines every and all actions that
we put forward and intend to put forward; james is a fighter, no more of
this "poor james" business. he knew what he was doing, prepared himself
and was ready for what happened. do not underestimate him or his 
determination or what he represents to the world. surely it is hard for
him and his parents and closest loved ones. this is a time for
solidarity, in strength, not weakness. the enemy will crush the weak
hearted and they find sick pleasure in it. it is the spirit that keeps
the body alive, remember that. ds


Stuart Albright wrote:
> 
> Dawn Star,
> 
> You're right, we don't know exactly what happened. All we know is that they
> put Rachel in jail, and suddenly thirty people who were planning to do the
> same thing instantly changed their minds. OK, whatever.
> 
> With all the NLD members giving up anyway, what's the point? I know they're
> being pressured, but if they're not willing to go to jail, why  should
> anyone else? Poor James.
> 
> Stu
> 
> >From: Dawn Star <dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >Reply-To: dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >To: Stuart Albright <stuart_albright@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >CC: tinkyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx, burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> >Subject: Re: [burmanet2-l] Re: The Times - Bribery is key to life in
> >Burma's death jail
> >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 21:36:50 +0200
> >
> >Stuart, now hold on a second, i agree in principle and think about
> >Gandhi and how he filled up the jails of India to break the stranglehold
> >of British Imperial colonialism. So we do have something here....
> >
> >Stuart Albright wrote:
> > >
> > > Dawn Star -- Sure, there's room for "discussion" -- let's keep talking
> >and
> > > talking and talking, as long as there's no action.
> >
> > > Lets see and work this out, ok?
> >
> > > OK. Why did they cancel their plans? Obvious: Rachel got a long
> >sentence.
> >
> >No, thats not the problem.
> >
> > > And nobody wanted to follow her lead. I don't blame them, jail is scary.
> >
> >Again, its not that, the fear of jail is a given, and in Burma, an
> >overpowering one, but it is a known given,
> >
> >time is not the issue here
> >
> >But
> > > still the answer is there for everybody to see in clear daylight. They
> >were
> > > scared off by SPDC.
> >
> >i dont think so
> >
> >So they all retreated from the battle so they could have
> > > more "discussion." Right. Let's stop pretending.
> >
> >wrong again, or if so, lets find out>
> > >
> >
> >SPDC clearly wanted to scare the activist community into calling off
> >more
> > > direct challenges, like James and Rachel. Guess what, they did. They
> >won.
> >
> >i do not think so, the game is far from over
> >
> > >
> > > We can pretend that we're more "resourceful" in our easy lives outside,
> > > writing letters and staging protests. But that stuff is soft work, for
> > > clerks and little girls. Where are the real fighters?
> >
> >look, we are not with the knu and we are not in the field here or
> >elsewhere with the shans and mons, so lets hold on a bit, and see this
> >thing out
> >
> >  Not the daydreamers,
> > > but the really committed people? I only see one, and he's in Kengtung
> >jail,
> > > by himself.
> >
> >WHO is this?
> >
> >
> >  Abandoned, basically, by his so-called comrades. Who are busy
> > > having "discussions."
> > >
> > > It's been almost ten years since the election. Ten years of talking.
> >Let's
> > > change the name of Burma Action Group to Burma Talk Group. Might as well
> >be
> > > honest.
> > >
> > > Regards, Stu
> > >
> > > >From: Dawn Star <dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >Reply-To: dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >To: Stuart Albright <stuart_albright@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >CC: tinkyi@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, burmanet2-l@xxxxxxxx, burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >Subject: Re: [burmanet2-l] Re: The Times - Bribery is key to life in
> > > >Burma's death jail
> > > >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 14:40:49 +0200
> > > >
> > > >There is a lot of room for agreement and discussion here. If they had
> > > >decided to go, and were committed to do so, then why did they turn
> >away.
> > > >Who told them not to do it. Was there a vote? Did they abandon the
> > > >effort, and with it James and Rachel. It is a question for all. Who and
> > > >when should people test the will of the junta, and the flexibility of
> > > >the borders and the government. This obviously isnt good for tourism or
> > > >investment and not at all good for the image of the junta. And the
> > > >diplomats have their work cut out for them anyway, these people in jail
> > > >are more human rights abuses on their agenda. Important and timely.
> > > >Perhaps there is a question of who should go, under what conditions,
> >and
> > > >with secrecy and background fully checked and covered. And the people
> > > >who decide to go should be aware that they will be tested and put under
> > > >stress, perhaps tortured, as James says he was. Prison in Burma is not
> > > >for the weak-hearted nor do for those who may be uncovered and then
> >lost
> > > >to the movement.
> > > >
> > > >No this is not a game. It is a test of will, time and committment.
> > > >Perhaps it will take some of the heat off Daw Aung San Suu Kyi who is
> > > >obviously not to be incriminated here. This is for the world at large,
> > > >the free world concerned about freedom in Burma. As she has said all
> > > >along, eloquently, it is a struggle for us all.
> > > >
> > > >Yet some of us, if we were to choose to go and be imprisoned would be
> > > >taking unnecessary risk and at great risk of loss of life. It would be
> > > >more resourceful not to be imprisoned. But in any prisoner of war
> > > >situation, these are very delicate and uneasy problems to tackle. And
> > > >life is at risk. That is the nature of the game. That is the cost of
> > > >sticking your neck out when others prefer to go to the shopping malls
> > > >and watch soap operas or show off their latest car or whatever.
> > > >Committment is not a second nature; it is the priority.
> > > >
> > > >If these people were called off, then perhaps it was for a reason, and
> > > >perhaps they are only waiting in the wings. The junta border guards and
> > > >visa donors are on the watch, so of course, every one will have to be
> > > >exceedingly careful.
> > > >
> > > >And very quiet.
> > > >
> > > >ds
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Stuart Albright wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > The last paragraph of this story is important. Why did the thirty
> > > >activists
> > > > > who planned to be arrested suddenly change their minds? If  they're
> > > >afraid
> > > > > of going to jail, then the movement is in real trouble.
> > > > >
> > > > > Nobody wants to go to jail - but it means we only stand up to SPDC
> >if we
> > > > > know there won't be any consequences. I don't think Daw Suu would be
> > > >very
> > > > > impressed. Looks like either we're all just playing games, or we're
> >all
> > > > > cowards. Committed to democracy in Burma, as long as we can sleep in
> >our
> > > >own
> > > > > beds at night.
> > > > >
> > > > > The arrest of James and Rachel is a challenge. SPDC has thrown down
> >the
> > > > > gauntlet. If everybody backs down in fear, if no one else goes in to
> >be
> > > > > arrested, then SPDC has won, and what Rachel and James have done
> >will be
> > > >in
> > > > > vain.
> > > > >
> > > > > Protesting in front of Tony Blair's house is a pretty lame response.
> > > > > Anyone who calls themselves a "freedom fighter" should be willing to
> > > >earn
> > > > > that title. No fair just blaming Blair or the Foreign Office. This
> >is
> > > > > supposed to be a people's movement.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
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