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Interview of H.E Dr. Kyaw Win with



Subject: Interview of H.E Dr. Kyaw Win with the TV Channel-4 of Britain

Interview of the Myanmar Ambassador tothe United Kingdom H.E Dr. Kyaw Win
with the TV Channel-4 of Britain 

             Question-1  Do you have a general view of economic sanctions
against
             individual countries?

             Answer-1    The very rationale of economic sanctions is at
best a cruel
             one. The objective being to pressure a country or a government to
             reverse its policy or attitude without having to go to war. The
             sanctions are in fact meant  to make the country so poor that the
             people will find the living conditions intolerably difficult and
             hopefully rise up against their own leaders ultimately
resulting in the
             overthrow of their government. It is also the hope of those
countries
             imposing the sanctions, which at this stage happen to be done
             predominantly by powerful western governments against weaker
third
             would countries,  that a democratic or a pluralistic form of
government
             that they can support can emerge in that weaker country.
However, in
             the world today, this choice is often determined by the
economic and
             security interests of the rich and the powerful countries as
well.
             However imposition of unilateral sanctions, misses one very
important
             point. The people, first of all,  when they get poverty
stricken as a
             result of these sanctions, can often be made to realise that
certain
             foreign powers and their supporters are in fact responsible
for making
             the government in power stronger and arouse nationalistic
sentiments
             that work against the foreign powers. In such cases although
sanctions
             may adversely affect the country's  economy to a significant
degree
             they have not been able to cause a significant change in the
             government. Theoretically, sanctions are suppose to be less
cruel than
             military action. In reality, sanctions can be as cruel because
although
             it takes longer and more  protracted in making its effects
felt, they
             last longer and are more difficult to rehabilitate the
innocent people
             from its chronic effects such as malnutrition and disease. It
is also a
             weapon that is inaccurate and crude. It cannot be properly
targeted
             with a lot of collateral damage, which is almost inevitable.
At this
             stage, therefore, I will simply agree and bring  out the views
that
             have already been expressed  by many well-known personalities
from
             Britain  and the United States. For instance, the famed British
             filmmaker, Sir Peter Ustinov, on his way back from Myanmar in
1996
             after making a film  documentary, told the Sunday Post in
Bangkok that
             '' I am absolutely against the isolation of any country. There
seems to
             be a mistake commensurate with sanctions and sanctions are the
most
             stupid things that have ever been invented. ''He said'' all
sanctions
             have done is to make many old people poorer and many young people
             unhappy, miserable and ill. It is a waste of time and very
unfair.'' On
             the other side of the Atlantic have come similar views from
former
             Secretaries of State Dr. Henry Kissinger and Alexander Haig,
former US
             Secretary  Haig called sanctions ''a short sighted  approach''
and that
             ''such deeds are arrogant, wrong-headed and misreads lessons of
             history'' because sanctions failed to work but they frequently,
             especially in democratic societies, create obstacles for the
leaders of
             those countries to make the changes we want. The real issue is
how you
             make the situation better and not how to make you feel  good
at home
             and keep  the press happy.'' Also at the same time the study
of the
             American Association of manufacturers indicate in a
20-page-report that
             out of 35 countries sanctioned by U.S government  unilaterally
(not
             through the United Nations) in the past have not produced any
positive
             change in the government, system or the politics of any of those
             countries.

             Q-2     Do you believe that one country has the right to
impose it's will
             on the government   or citizens of another country?

             A-2        The answer is a simple, No. I don't think even the
majority of
             citizens of the country imposing sanctions will agree in
general with
             this idea. The problem is caused by the few dissidents and
their very
             vocal and powerful supporters abroad in the political sphere
who may
             still have some vested interest in the country, which was at
one time
             their colony and where they still have some citizens still
loyal to
             them and even waging an armed struggle for independence an so
on. The
             politicians in the west, befriended by these few dissidents for
             decades, often lobby in their support. So a lot of these
impositions
             are done like Mr. Alexander Haig once said ''to make yourself
feel
             good'' and to keep the local political constituencies as well
as the
             press happy. They don't even necessarily have a good and sound 
             understanding of the problems. It is more than a coincidence
that those
             who say the worst things about Myanmar, have never actually
been there.
             Most of them being purely theoreticians.

             Q-3       Many governments in the developing world have argued
that certain
             sections of western society have difficulties in understanding
cultural
             differences between the East and the West. Do you feel this is
a valid
             argument?

             A-3       To that I would answer that this is indeed a very
valid argument.
             At the United Nations General Assembly two years ago, a
South-East
             Asian representative pointed out that the absence of any Asian or
             African country joining the co-sponsorship of the human rights
             resolution against Myanmar signifies a glaring geographical
divide on
             the understanding of this problem. It may be too simplistic to
say that
             cultural differences alone has caused this but it is certainly
one of
             the main factors. 

             Q-4        Do you feel that there is an element of 'cultural
imperialism'
             implied in these people calling for sanctions?

             A-4       Personally I would not go as far as that but the way
things are
             happening does lend a degree of credibility to such an
argument. There
             are still people out here who are probably not in the majority
but who
             feel that they are more moral, technically and economically
ahead and
             have a tendency to talk down to the others in the developing
countries
             in a patronizing and condescending manner. When they don't get
their
             way they would try to use the threat of economic, political
and even
             military power to make the weaker countries comply. Such
politicians
             have been using sanctions to serve domestic political purposes
where
             they want to be seen acting forcefully at the same time not to
cause
             blood shed. In fact domestic political goals increasingly
appear to be
             the motivating force behind the imposition of  many recent
sanctions.
             Other determining factors are the size of the country,
military might,
             and the economic repercussions that it would have on the country
             imposing the sanctions. If such sanctions would only have a
minimal
             impact on their own economies. They are usually less reluctant to
             impose the sanctions even though it is obvious that the
effects of
             sanctions may be just symbolic. Self interests always seem to
take
             priority over principles and hypocrisy often becomes quite
apparent.
                     
                             (To be continued on 4 September.)   
                                                        
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