TIME TO RESTRUCTURE/ SEND TOTAL TO

[dawnstar@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Subject: TIME TO RESTRUCTURE/ SEND TOTAL TO EUROPEAN COURT

Dawn Star wrote:
> 
> i totally (no pun intented) agree. not wishing to be long winded here,
> it is clear  that new strategies are needed. or example, is there any
> good reason why Thierry Desmarest, PDG -CEO of TOTAL is not brought up
> to a European Court for crimes against humanity, genocide, supporting
> the junte, to get cheap burmese gas at a steal all the while claiming
> development. Look, the parallel policy of TOTAL and the French govt is
> artfully meant to create confusion, keep distance from the regime
> -parallel policy - all the while lipsyncing songs of democracy as though
> they really care about moral order. The genocide in Rwanda,
> ex-Yugoslavia (and please dont forget Srebrenica, july 1995, when 7-10
> 000 muslims were massacred by Serbs) surely is a headache for the
> europeans, and more than that, their ministers, many of them are now
> still in government, trying to play humanitarians now.
> 
> The world has to get on with it and dump these political stooges and
> bring the corporate villians to court.
> 
> Why is there not a FREE BURMA movement to bring, here in Europe, Thierry
> Desmarest, Serge Tchuruk, and the Executive Committee of TOTAL, to a
> European Court to account for their alleged -- is it still only alleged,
> -constantly denied but there is proof, only even the OIT doesnt want to
> name names, or point their fingers at companies. Ergo, the lack of
> condemnation of Total by OIT this spring.
> 
> Even Amnesty backs off of the companies knowing damn well that in Burma,
> TOTAl is not innocent, that TOTAL is directly supporting the regime. But
> you know as well, that once more and more companies get into the game of
> constructive engagement, it whitewashes, or means to, as its intended
> to, one and everyone one so that no company is willing to claim human
> rights as a reason for their withdrawal, or very few, re Arco did not,
> Texaco is still there, Unocal is still there, etc. Constructive
> engagement means to get them all off the hook, while they steal the
> resources handed over to them by a corrupt, encouraged to be corrupt

> albeit, regime. And anyone with a head, a thinking head, knows that a
> dictatorship is corrupt, and supporting a dictatorship encourages
> corruption and furthers the aims, goals and methods of dictators.
> 
> So you tell me why this world play the people for dumb idiots, claiming
> they as politicians are trying to do something (dont forget the dirty
> role of the UN in Rwanda and in Yugoslavia where they actually handed
> over untold numbers of MUSLIMS to Serbs - and this in yesterday's
> Liberation national french daily. Its a sick game and the politicians
> are stealing the show, the government functionaires in Europe are
> powerless to change things as they proved they have not, and so far do
> not seem able to change anythin in Burma iota.
> 
> So you tell me, who are the dupes. Slorc SPDC is holding on surely
> knowing that the Europeans will play their stupid political games of
> diplomacy, talking to themselves, talking until they have exhausted
> themeselves, and go back home.
> 
> ONLY WHEN EUROPE ENFORCES FULL AND UNMITIGATED SANCTIONS will the  junte
> get the message. Its about time, and its long overtime.
> 
> THIS MUST BE THE TACTICAL GOAL.
> 
> And TOTAL AND THE TOTAL EX COMMITTEE MUST BE MADE TO ACCOUNT. AND TO
> PAY BACK BURMA.
> 
> ds
> 
> Panyoma wrote:
> >
> > There are little or no chances at all to have  a democratic system in
> > operation as long as a military like in Burma these days is in
> > charge.Impossible ! We should all pretty well know by now.
> >
> > Let's get on with different approach.
> >
> > Yours sincerely
> >
> > I dearly and honestly believe that UK is morally responsible to fix up,
> > what you call it one of the most cruelities of time, situations in
> > Burma.The bill is long overdue.
> >
> > Benya,syd
> > ----------
> > > From: Julien Moe <moe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: Panyoma <panyoma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: TIME TO RESTRUCTURE POLITICAL STRATEGIES
> > > Date: Sunday, 11 July 1999 4:11
> > >
> > > Dear Ko Banya,
> > >                                I see eye to eye with you  on your
> > > approaches. The opposition and the international community don't seem to
> > > understand the authentic mentality of this government.
> > >
> > > Take care.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > Julien
> > >
> > > >Regarding article below .......
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Dear Julien and all Burma netters
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I absolutely agree with your suggestion for alternative approaches
> > towards
> > > >Burmese Revolution for Democracy.It is badly needed.
> > > >
> > > >Yet an another failure approach by EU.It is on and on and ...... now at
> > > >least 10 years is on and people of Burma suffer worse than ever.
> > > >
> > > >ASEAN 's business ,profit and  making - money politics of the
> > "constructive
> > > >engagement" is a typical old fashioned Asian colloquial meaning  of "
> > > >nicely saying only"-playing with words.Does not carry much meaning in
> > it.
> > > >Another word,it is a way of bullshiting for ones own good.
> > > >I think,  this is as simple as that.
> > > >

> > > >The Burmese military will not talk to NLD voluntarily or sake of the
> > > >country and its people.Must try other ways.
> > > >Let's waste no more time.
> > > >Let's  waste no more time on  " playing harp to buffalo" ( Burmese
> > saying )
> > > >who responds only when hurts.
> > > >
> > > >Let's hurt them just to make them listen. Why not?
> > > >
> > > >Please everyone else suggest which is her and his proposal.Under this
> > > >subject.
> > > >Hurry up and time is running out.
> > > >
> > > >I suggest we should all draw up our own plans and reconmendations
> > > >individually.
> > > >let's start it happen in very soon.Given a month time and registered
> > > >ourself in to a discussion group and present ones' own proposals on the
> > > >table.Debate among us and extract a single best proposal.
> >
> > > >
> > > >We then will find supports to implement our working proposal to
> > completion.
> > > >
> > > >Terms and conditions must be applied to all  entrants  for some
> > > >confidential discussions.Which will be worked out by the members before
> > > >hand.
> > > >
> > > >Any suggestions?   Please discuss !
> > > >
> > > >The military moles,agents and MIS are welcome to discuss as long as it
> > is a
> > > >help for Democracy Revolution for Burma.
> > > >I don't give a damn about them actually in this part of the world
> > > >
> > > >1.      beat them in their own military means that  the only language
> > that
> > > >the Myanmar military seemed to understand or
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >2.     economic means they are not good at or
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >3.    combination of these two  or
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >4.    any other alternatives and how it could be worked out etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I think we can discuss this on the net?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Best regards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Panyoma
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >----------
> > > >> From: Julien Moe <moe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > >> To: burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > > >> Subject: TIME TO RESTRUCTURE POLITICAL STRATEGIES
> > > >> Date: Saturday, 10 July 1999 5:08
> > > >>
> > > >> TIME TO RESTRUCTURE POLITICAL STRATEGIES
> > > >> ****************************************************************
> > > >> By Julien Moe
> > > >> 9th July 1999
> > > >>
> > > >> It is time to wonder why the United States has sent no mission to
> > Burma
> > > >> like EU did this week. The EU mission went back from Burma with a
> > > >failure.
> > > >> Congressman Tony Hall's visit  was the last mission for the United
> > > >> States."The United States did support EU mission to Burma. The
United
> > > >> States supported  the discussions by the special European mission
> > which
> > > >just
> > > >> ended  in Burma for talks intended to encourage Burma to improve its
> > > >dismal
> > > >> human rights performance. The U.S. has long urged Burmese authorities
> > to
> > > >> begin a real substantive dialogue with the
> > > >> National League for Democracy, including Aung San Sui Kyi, and
leaders
> > > >> of Burma's ethnic minority groups, leading to a peaceful democratic
> > > >> transition. The United States  called  on Burma to improve its human

> > > >rights
> > > >> record by
> > > >> stopping such practices as forced labor, extra-judicial and arbitrary
> > > >> executions, rape, torture, mass arrests, forced labour, forced
> > relocation
> > > >> and denial of freedom of expression,and by permitting the parliament
> > that
> > > >> was democratically elected in
> > > >> 1990 to convene." The United States sees no  change in terms of
> > > >democratic
> > > >> reforms in Burma.
> > > >>
> > > >> Now we need to analyse what kind of government the military junta
> > ruling
> > > >> Burma is. From my professional point of view , this is the government
> > > >that
> > > >> has no faith in a representative democracy.  Such is the government
> > that
> > > >is
> > > >> attached to status quo for "fear of losing power". Opposition leader
> > Aung
> > > >S
> > > >> n Suu Kyi has expressed her opinion regarding why the generals
hold on
> > to
> > > >> power by saying, "It''s fear of losing power that corrupts the
> > > >generals.."
> > > >> This is the regime that will never give in. Holes pierced through the
> > > >walls
> > > >> of the military headquarters on Signal pagoda road speak the words
for
> >
> > > >the
> > > >> ruling generals. They are still there and they are meant for guns to
> > go
> > > >in
> > > >> to shoot whoever is going to oppose the government .  It is crystal
> > clear
> > > >> and unequivocal that the regime has no intention to have a dialogue
> > with
> > > >the
> > > >> democratically elected opposition, NLD headed by Aung San Suu Kyi.
> > > >>
> > > >> It is time for the opposition and the international community to find
> > an
> > > >> alternative strategy to defuse the gridlock in Burma. If negociations
> > > >won't
> > > >> work ,what will? It has already been more than a decade that the
> > military
> > > >> occupied Burma by force.
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Source:US Dept. Of  State
> > > >
> > > >