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Text:U.S. Deeply regrets Burma's Fa (r)
- Subject: Text:U.S. Deeply regrets Burma's Fa (r)
- From: enmasse_1@xxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 14:03:00
Dear Julien,
Good to know where you stand. But, what happened? I presume you are
logging in from another account 'jhtinzaw' at the nyit.
>Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.96.980922145417.20416A-100000@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Anyway, here is my response to Julien Moe on your reply.
1. " As I believe only in diplomacy, I still reckon that there is
still a chance to resolve the political crisis in Burma
peacefully."
Response:
=========
Firstly, I could not stop you if you still believe there's still a
chance for a peaceful resolution. But, indeed it's a wishful thinking, I
must say.
Secondly, I found the following statements of yours pretty presumptuous
unless you have concrete explanations and means to back up them up:
2. " As politics is who gets what, when and how, I think I know why
the political gridlock in Burma is happening."
Response:
=========
Who gets what (?), when(?) and how(?)... That's unbelieveable.
But, what are they? If that is what it is all about to bring the SPDC to
a political gridlock with the NLD, then the 'SPDC is in real trouble'.
Here are my views. It's not the first time that it happened. Just in
November 1997, you probably noticed the trouble the SLORC had gone
through when a SLORC had to be renamed to SPDC with one more Secretary-3
added to its old Council line-up and making all the existing regional
commanders the members of the council. Not only that, a revised line-up
to the Ministerial posts had to be announced with an additonal ministry
being cerated to fit in another ministerial post and kicking out 'Abel'
to the Prime Minister's office making a total of 41 ministries under the
SPDC. (Optimistically, if a realitic deal is made under a democratically
elected parliament, there is not going to be 41 ministries). So, given
this scenario, it won't be long before some smater military personals
will find it safe to show support the will of the people when the time
comes rather than being eliminated unfairly under the SPDC.
They know the new democratically elected government still needs all the
good, able and dedicated soldiers for its armed forces. They may be able
to say 'good-bye' to the SPDC real soon.
In soliderity,
Minn Kyaw Minn
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>Dear Ko Minn Kyaw Minn,
> My stand has always been with the people and
>the party elected by the people.Despite SPDC's abandonment of having >a
dialogue with NLD, I still believe there's still a chance for a
>peaceful resolution.As politics is who gets what, when and how,I >think
I know why the political gridlock in Burma is happening.
>
>Burma can't be more troubled than now. Every sanction that has ever
>existed has been imposed on Burma.What next?Another version of North
>Korea?I don't think so.What is it that the people want?The people
>elected NLD for a new democratic government. SPDC should start >having
a dialogue with NLD for the sake of the people who should >come first.If
a government can no longer perform well enough to cure >the trickled
down economy , then it should quit but what is causing >the trickled
down economy? Analyse the situation based on facts.
>
>What will decide the future of Burma?Public opinion [In this case, >the
people],the political class [= NLD,SPDC and the International
>Community] and the Media [The Press inside Burma doesn't count >because
it is tightly a propaganda of the regime].
>
>My stand has always been the same since I was resposible for Foreign
>Affairs and Information for BYLF founded by Maung Maung Kyaw.
>
>As I believe only in diplomacy, I still reckon that there is still a
>chance to resolve the political crisis in Burma peacefully.
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Julien Moe
>
>On 21 Sep 1998 enmasse_1@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
>
>> Dear Julian Moe,
>>
>> Now, that the SPDC has abondoned the so called initial "confidence
>> buliding" meeting with U Aung Shwe of the NLD and started arresting
>> the elected NLD MPs and members shortly afterwards, I would like >>to
know your stand once again regarding the NLD's movements. I hope >>you
understand the SPDC better now. Their behaviour will never >>change.
They are so predictable.
>>
>> Attached please find your reply to me regarding the meeting between
>> the NLD and the SPDC representatives. How deceitful do you want
>>them to be?
>>
>> Minn Kyaw Minn
>> ==============
>>
>> -----------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> >Dear Ko Minn Kyaw Minn,
>>
>> >I couldn't agree with you less for your thorough explanation on >>
NLD's turning down SPDC's offer to talk.What I was thinking was >> if
NLD went to talk with SPDC even if there were conditions and >> if it
was just a deceitful scorn, the media will blow the lid
>> off and the party who'll get shame and a bad name will be SPDC,
>> not the NLD.And the world will punish SPDC more.Don't you think?
>> Regards,
>> Julien Moe
>>
>> Comments:>
>> =========
>> >>Dear Julien,>>
>>
>> On the contrary, the invitation itself was obviously highly
>> conditional, one-sided and unfair for the NLD. So, for these
>> reasons, the NLD had turned down the offer. They should not
>> playdown the seriousness of this type of meeting at all for
>> goodness sake.
>> Besides, it was not the first time that the SPDC had pursued
>> the same type of contact. It was regretable that there was no
>> sign of progress from the side of SDPC in this aspect. The
>> regime must not try to brush away the problems and decide to
>> deal with them when things started to ge
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>>
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>> >Date: 21 Sep 1998 21:00:21
>> >Reply-To: Conference "reg.burma" <burmanet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>> >From: moe@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> >Subject: Text:U.S. Deeply regrets Burma's Failure to Convene
parliament
>> [Call
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>> > Title: TEXT: U.S. DEEPLY REGRETS BURMA'S FAILURE TO
>> CONVENE
>> > PARLIAMENT (Calls for dialogue between Burmese
>> government,
>> >people) (390)
>> >
>> > Date: 19980821
>> >
>> > Text:
>> > Washington -- The U.S. Department of State issued a
>> statement
>> >August 21 regretting the
>> > Burmese government's rejection of the National League
>> for
>> >Democracy's (NLD) call to
>> > convene the parliament elected in 1990.
>> >
>> > "The solution to Burma's political impasse can only
be
>> >achieved through a meaningful
>> > dialogue between the Burmese government and the
>> >representatives of the Burmese
>> > people," the statement said.
>> >
>> > Following is the official State Department text:
>> >
>> > (begin text)
>> >
>> > US DEPARTMENT OF STATE Office of the Spokesman
>> >
>> > August 21, 1998
>> >
>> > STATEMENT BY JAMES B. FOLEY, DEPUTY SPOKESMAN
>> >
>> > BURMA -- AUGUST 21 DEADLINE FOR CONVENING THE
PARLIAMENT
>> >
>> > In June of this year, Burma's primary opposition
party,
>> the
>> >National League for
>> > Democracy (NLD), called on the ruling State Peace and
>> >Development Council (SPDC) to
>> > convene the parliament elected in 1990 by today,
August
>> 21.
>> >We deeply regret the
>> > Burmese government's rejection of this historic
>> opportunity
>> >to respond to the NLD's call.
>> >
>> > The solution to Burma's political impasse can only be
>> >achieved through a meaningful
>> > dialogue between the Burmese government and the
>> >representatives of the Burmese
>> > people. We note the informal meeting held on Tuesday,
>> August
>> >18, between General Khin
>> > Nyunt, SPDC Secretary One, and Aung Shwe, Chairman of
>> the
>> >NLD. We hope that the
>> > government's initiative in inviting Aung Shwe to this
>> meeting
>> >will be a first step leading to a
>> > meaningful dialogue. We support the NLD's long
expressed
>> >commitment to reconciliation
>> > through genuine dialogue.
>> >
>> > If a genuine dialogue is to succeed it must be
without
>> >conditions and include all interested
>> > groups -- the government, the NLD, including its
leader
>> Aung
>> >San Suu Kyi, and
>> > representatives of Burma's ethnic minorities. We hope
it
>> will
>> >be accompanied very soon
>> > by genuine confidence-building measures on the
>> government's
>> >part, including the release of
>> > political prisoners and detained Members of
Parliament.
>> >
>> > Such a dialogue would be a means to larger ends: the
>> >restoration of democracy in Burma,
>> > an improved standard of living for all Burmese
people,
>> and
>> >the resumption of Burma's
>> > rightful place in the community of nations. To that
end,
>> the
>> >United States remains
>> > committed to working in partnership with all parties
of
>> good
>> >will in Burma and with others
>> > in the international community.
>> >
>> > (end text)
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
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