FTUB/NCFUB (r)

[kzy@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Hi,
	First of all, I have to tell you that we brought almost all of
NCGUB to the border.  Judging the appearance without knowing the internal
situation profoundly is also a bad habbit of us and we need to change
that.  I have to say that Dr. Sein Win is honest and quiet in many ways.
I don't have to argue about that.  I don't want to pick any one but if
need be, it is easy to point by facts.  But, the thing you must know is
that we are not making personal attacks on any of them.  I also agree that
NCGUB is quite successful (or those foreigners who lobby, we have to
credit them too).  But, the question is that is NCGUB successful in
organizing the opposition groups on the border?  Don't think that
appearance of many this and that new alliance is the means of unity.  It
is pretty different.  Why did NCGUB and NLD (LA) split on the border even
though they both came from the mother party NLD?  
	Were we just pointing fingures?  Aren't we telling all to find
solutions by all?  All are responsible and we don't avoid that but instead
we are doing as responsible to do.  
	Is NCGUB only for international lobbying?  May be it will be true
because all of them left for resettlement.  I don't want to tell the
stories behind the attempts.  That is their personal choices and there is
nothing to argue about it.  
	I want to say that I want the leaders to be effective leaders and
in order to change that, all are responsible.  All have to analyse the
situation in real sense.  You can't know what is really happening by just
visiting for a while once or twice.  It is also very sad that many people
who are just focusing on international level and forget about the real
importance of encouraging people on the border and in the struggle.  The
basic thing is that try to know the real situation from all and try to
analyse rationally.  Please listen the voices of many who are discouraged
by the inmoral corruptions.  

Yours sincerely,
Kyaw Zay Ya



On 17 Jun 1998 kenoo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

> Dear BurmaNet Readers,
> 
> As far as we, ALL YOUNG BURMESE LEAGUE (AYBL) members in Australia are
> concerned, we sincerely believe and see that the NCGUB and NCGUB's
> representative in Australia are doing many good for restoring democracy in
> Burma and Burmese community development in Australia. As we (Burmese in
> Australia) know, NCGUB and its representative are very successful in 
> lobbying the international and Australia community for restoring democracy
> in Burma in many ways. 
> 
> I came to know Dr Sein Win and NCGUB when it was formed in Manaplaw in
> December 1990. He is quiet and a gentleman. I also met him as second time
> in 1992 when he came to Australia to lobby the Australia government for
> getting moral and other possible aids and support for restoring democracy
> in Burma. He also met the Immigration Minister Jury Han and discussed about
> the Special Refugees program. The special refugee category called SAC213
> (Special Assistant Category-213 for Burmese people living in Thai-Burma
> border) came out later that year was very much influenced by Dr Sein Win's
> visit. ABC (Australia Burma Council) was formed in 1992 when Dr Sein Win
> was here and it has been doing tremendous good job since then. We have to
> admit that ABC has been doing many good quality jobs more than any single
> real Burmese organization in Australia. We, burmese are very good at
> pointing fingers to others, jealous at someone's success and forget who is
> our number one enemy. It is very sad. 
> 
> Many people including NCGUB, ABSDF, and many organizations and many
> individuals have given up their most precious thing in the universe; their
> lives, just for democracy, just to topple the oppressive government - our
> no. 1 enemy. This is our aim, our one and only one objective. The purpose
> of revolutions is " To topple the oppressive regime and attain the
> democracy in Burma ".
> 
> If I do not like NCGUB or any party or groups I will punish that group with
> my ballot vote in free and fair election. Our first aim is to get democracy
> where everyone can exercise their democratic rights. So far, in my opinion,
> most of the the letters in the net regarding the NCGUB/FTUB produce counter
> productive. It does not contribute any good thing towards democracy for
> Burma. Nobody can come out and prove these financial accusation and claims
> are right or wrong. And also the public accessible brunet is also not a
> right place to explain and counter explain where and how the fund has been
> used. If someone really wants to make the things right, he/she should
> contact the doner of the fund and expressed their concern, not on the net.
> I haven't seen any NCGUB or FTUBA or ABC members getting rich or living
> luxury life. Most of these guys are broke because they do revolution with
> their own expenses. If we keep pointing our fingers at others we will get
> nowhere. SPDC will look at us and laugh at us. Please think again.
> 
> We can express our opinions freely in the name democracy. However, we also
> have to remember that democracy means responsibility. The democracy does
> not mean that I can say anything as senselessly as I like. (If it does not
> damage anyone, it may be ok). I am sure all of us understand this. We have
> to know how much damage of the democracy movement will be made by our
> irresponsible thoughts words and actions.  Let's start a fresh towards
> democracy for Burma from the 8888, 10 th anniversary. 
> 
> Kenneth OO
> ALL YOUNG BURMESE LEAGUE INC.           
> 
> ----------
> > From: burma@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > To: Recipients of BurmaNet-l <BurmaNet-l@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: FTUB/NCFUB
> > Date: Tuesday, June 16, 1998 11:49 AM
> > 
> > Please try to post AASW mail to Burma net.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > burmanet@xxxxxxxxxxx
> > maykha-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > 
> > Recent discussion of FTUB-related issues has broungt the Burmenet
> audience a
> > special interest in the history of Burmese pro-democracy leadership
> overseas.
> > Today's FTUB Affairs, mostly unknown to the majority of the revolutionary
> > groups, seem to have been established never around the past political
> > experiences of progressive Burmese students and activists while the
> dominating
> > groups only with a few people, namely NCGUB and FTUB, have made their
> > organizational system very different from those of their counterparts in
> > student-led activist groups and organizations in a eight-year-period
> since the
> > begining. 
> > 
> > The system of the Big Guys in NCGUB and FTUB has thus repeatedly enabled
> > occurrence of certain unjust, unpopular, unprincipled political
> experiments
> > within and among themselves. The result of these experiments usually
> carried
> > out in accordance with the demands of a few self-seeking individuals in
> FTUB
> > and NCGUB is an annual cash flow from naive non-Burmese funders all over
> the
> > world. To me, the most striking aspects of the overseas Burmese political
> > community is its radical students and activists representing the majority
> and
> > a handful of opportunistic politicians enjoying the current political
> deadlock
> > in Burma. Since 1991, the distinct characteristics between these two
> camps
> > have not been changed and improved even in some positive ways along with
> the
> > changes in the larger Burmese political environment watched and observed
> by
> > the international community leaders.    
> > 
> > >From now on, we, therefore, would like to focus our attention on how and
> why
> > NCGUB has not been able to provide the majority political forces other
> than
> > itself with reasonable leadership from an analytical view-point so that
> it
> > would possibly reach some meaningful decisions as to its organizational
> > development for the better. If the NCGUB did not have a desire to change
> its
> > organizational structure the way it has been run for the past eight
> years, the
> > NCGUB would keep losing supporters as it is right now and in the long run
> it
> > may not be able to turn to foreign funding organizations and governments
> to
> > accept increasing financial responsibilities for a few individuals who
> has
> > lied to and ignored the entire political forces which are supposed to be
> led
> > by NCGUB by all means.
> > 
> > The following is the excerpts from Ko Htun Aung Kyaw 's Red Booklet which
> I
> > want
> > to present to the Burmanet audience. I have asked the author (Ko Htun
> Aung
> > Kyaw) if I could post on the net the English version of some content
> contained
> > in his Red Booklet, so I took the liberty of translating some parts from
> this
> > book because my genuine interest in presenting the English translation is
> to
> > have as many people to understand the FTUB-related problems as possible.
> If
> > the audience knew little of the background, it would be difficult to read
> the
> > whole context. One man, not representing the labor forces inside Burma (
> In
> > fact, there is no organized labor group anywhere), has no rights to name
> > himself a leader of FTUB and take adventage of naive funding
> orgainzations
> > abroad. Nor does he have any entitlement to rule our revolution as a king
> no
> > matter whoever stands behind him.    
> > 
> > aye aye soe win
> > 
> > -----------------------------------------
> > The Portrait of Maung Maung
> > ------------------------------------------
> > The first person "I" is used to directly refer to Ko Htun Aung Kyaw the
> same
> > way as it is in his Burmese version of the Red Booklet. (Translator)
> > 
> > Maung Maung (now FTUB head) and I were both elected as student
> > respresentatives for the Geology Major freshman class in 1970-71. And
> when we
> > were in the sophormore year, Maung Maung came to me and said, "Tun Aung
> Kyaw,
> > you don't run for elections this year, I also won't run for the position
> of a
> > student representative. You see certain people don't want to work hard
> (for
> > the student body).
> > 
> > Upon hearing his persuation like this, I replied, "Well, if you say so, I
> > promise I won't run for elections. Afterwards Ko Shein Win, the then
> General
> > Secretary of Geology Major Students Association, came to convince me that
> I
> > should run for Sophomore Class representation. Ko Shein Win had asked me
> twice
> > to run for the elections, but I rejected his offers twice. Later Ko Maung
> > Maung became the sophomore class representative. So this is his (Maung"s
> > Maung's) background.
> > 
> > In 1988-89, I met Maung Maung again in Bangkok. At that time I was the
> > chairman of All Burma Students Democratic Front. Maung Maung said, " I am
> > recruiting student soldiers in the border town of Ranong and giving them
> > secret military training on an island around Margue Islands. I woulk like
> you
> > to endorse me as the Chairman of ABSDF."  While Maung Maung was proposing
> me
> > to recognize him this way, I, feeling the urge and attachment to a
> friendship,
> > had endorsed his man named Ye Tun, because he convinced me that he was
> > actually giving military training to his followers. Afterwards, I heard
> of
> > stories that Ye Tun was collecting money from the seamen in Ranong as an
> ABSDF
> > representative. I heard of such stories. Then I no longer heard about the
> > people taking military training on a Margue island.
> > 
> > In 1991, Maung Maung tried to borrow some money from me. Ko Aung (U Nu'
> son)
> > was
> > then broke, and Maung and Than Lwin too were facing financial problems.
> > Previously, I had agreeded that I would buy a pistol from Than Lwin for
> > 10,000.00 Bahts (400.00 dollars), and so decided to give him 10,000.00
> bahts
> > to get the pistol later. I never got the pistol though. The money was
> lost.
> > Never did Ko Than Lwin receive the money from Maung Maung.
> > 
> > Later I learned that it was almost overnight success that Maung Maung has
> > become the leader of FTUB at the recommandation of NCGUB after working
> for
> > NCGUB as a mere clerk. Even though I knew that he was never a
> representative
> > of labor groups in Burma, I was glad for his promotion because of my
> > recognition of our friendship.
> > 
> > When he was visiting Washington DC, I met him again there. He told me
> that he
> > wanted to loan a book on Burmese labor history from Cornell University. I
> felt
> > that he was manipulating again, but I managed to get him the book he
> wanted,
> > because he promised that he would return the book soon. I let him loan
> the
> > book not because he was a friend, but because I thought he would somehow
> work
> > on something that might benefit our revolution. Since then, the book has
> never
> > been returned. I had to pay fines for the lost item to the Cornell
> University
> > library. All these happenings are actual ones, all of which are facts,
> indeed.
> > 
> > All these accounts are revealing who is the liar and who violates a
> > friendship.
> > 
> > (Translation ends here.)
> > From Page 4 of the  Red Booklet, Explanation on Charter '97 by Tun Aung
> Kyaw.
> >
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